Consideration of the fit and proper status of the holder of a dual Hackney Carriage and Private Hire Drivers’ Licence
Meeting: 18/02/2021 - Licensing Sub-Committee (Item 16)
To consider the submitted report in respect of a dual holder of a Hackney Carriage and Private Hire Drivers’ Licence – item adjourned from the meeting held on 24 January 2021 to enable consideration of additional information.
Additional documents:
- Appendix 1, item 16 PDF 79 KB
- Appendix 2, item 16 PDF 39 KB
- Appendix 3, item 16 PDF 82 KB
- Appendix 4, item 16 PDF 71 KB
- App 5 - Email correspondence with Mr Lawrence-Ball, item 16 PDF 24 KB
- App 6 - Medical requirement letter to Mr Lawrence-Ball, item 16 PDF 168 KB
- App 7 - Email correspondence with GP, item 16 PDF 79 KB
- App 8 - Email correspondence with Operator, item 16 PDF 15 KB
- App 9 - Letter from GP Exempt , View reasons restricted (16/10)
Minutes:
Prior to the start of the hearing and noting the absence of Mr Lawrence-Ball, Mr Rackley was asked by the Chairperson to telephone Mr Lawrence-Ball to confirm if he would be attending the hearing, having informed Members of his telephone call the day before with Mr Lawrence-Ball, where he had said he would be attending. Mr Lawrence-Ball did not answer the call and Mr Rackley left a message. Having been satisfied that Mr Lawrence-Ball was aware the hearing date and time, the Sub-Committee unanimously resolved to continue the hearing and would base their determination on the written information provided and the written and oral evidence received at the original hearing, on 14 January 2021. At the Chairpersons further request, Mr Rackley attempted again to contact Mr Lawrence-Ball prior to the Sub-Committee’s deliberation, in order to give him a chance to put across his point of view and respond to questions but no response was received.
Further to the meeting of the Licensing Sub-Committee on 14 January 2021, Members reconvened and considered the report and additional medical evidence, which had been requested at the original hearing, on a review of a Torbay Council Dual Hackney Carriage and Private Hire Driver’s Licence. The Licensing Officer advised Members that Mr Lawrence-Ball had failed to meet specific requirements as set out in the Hackney Carriage and Private Hire Licensing Policy 2018, by failing to declare relevant motoring offences.
At the original hearing, Mr Lawrence-Ball set out the circumstances which led to the 1 speeding offence and 1 motoring offence during a 2 year period which left him with 9 penalty points and the reasons for him omitting to declare the convictions to the Licensing Authority.
Decision
That Mr Lawrence-Ball’s Torbay Council issued Dual Hackney Carriage and Private Hire Drivers’ Licence be suspended with immediate effect, in accordance with Section 61(2B) of the Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976, on the grounds that he is not considered to be a ‘fit and proper’ person to hold such a licence.
Reasons for Decision
In coming to that decision, Members carefully considered having been charged with the responsibility to determine Mr Lawrence-Ball’s Dual Hackney Carriage and Private Hire Drivers’ Licence, whether they would allow their son or daughter, spouse or partner, mother or father, grandson or granddaughter or any other person to whom they care or any other vulnerable person known to them to get into a vehicle with Mr Lawrence-Ball alone. An unequivocal and unanimous answer by Members to this question, was ‘no’.
Members determined that the failure to declare the speeding and motoring offences, whilst of great concern, had occurred during difficult and emotional times; and it was likely during this period, that Mr Lawrence-Ball may not have been in a fit and proper state, due to personal bereavements and the likelihood of this being compounded by his history of mental health, having disclosed this at the initial meeting on the 14 January 2021.
However, in the absence of Mr Lawrence-Ball presence at the ... view the full minutes text for item 16
Meeting: 14/01/2021 - Licensing Sub-Committee (Item 15)
To consider the submitted report in respect of a dual holder of a Hackney Carriage and Private Hire Drivers’ Licence.
Additional documents:
- Appendix 1, item 15 PDF 79 KB
- Appendix 2, item 15 PDF 39 KB
- Appendix 3, item 15 PDF 82 KB
- Appendix 4, item 15 PDF 71 KB
Minutes:
The Sub-Committee considered the submitted report which requested consideration of the fit and proper status of the holder of a dual Hackney Carriage and Private Hire Drivers’ License. Representations were heard from the Licensing Officer and respondent, Mr Lawrence-Ball.
Resolved:
Having carefully considered all the written and oral representations, Members unanimously resolved at this time that they were unable to determine whether Mr Lawrence-Ball remained a fit and proper person to hold a Licence. Members therefore resolved to adjourn their decision to Thursday, 18 February 2021 to enable information to be provided to them by Mr Lawrence-Ball with regards to medical evidence and therefore his suitability to be a holder of a Hackney Carriage and Private Hire Drivers’ Licence, as issued by Torbay Council. The Sub-Committee requested that the information required from Mr Lawrence-Ball must be submitted no later than Tuesday, 16 February 2021.
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